A few weeks ago, I was a guest on This Week in Travel (TWIT), a weekly podcast hosted by travel veterans Chris Christensen, Jen Leo and Gary Arndt. Our chat veered over to a press release that had just come out stating women’s tours were not selling as well as mixed travel. The fact that I disagree with that statement is beside the point.
What was more interesting to me was the response from Jen Leo, a long-time traveler, travel writer and the keynote blogger for the LA Times Daily Travel & Deals blog. Jen and I have known each other online for years and have met up at numerous travel events around the country. While I don’t know her well, I have tremendous respect for her and consider her a friend in that on-line-world kind of way. I think the feeling is mutual π
Jen is awesome, and while the conversation was in good nature, I was still shocked by her preconceived notion of what one of our women-only tours might be like. She made it very clear that she would only travel with other women she knew and that the last thing on earth she’d want was to travel with 20 women.
Perhaps she was playing devil’s advocate for her audience, but here are some of her beefs about women-only tours:
1) Women feel entitled. So much so that we are all fighting to get the seat we want on the bus or at dinner.
2) Women are so competitive in nature that we can’t get along.
3) Woman-only tours attract lesbians (NOT that there’s anything wrong with that!).
4) Women-only tours attract meat eaters, too.
5) Taking a women-only tour means you have to shave your head (seriously, listen to the interview!).
6) There are far too many cosmetic bags on a women-only tour.
7) During even a week-long trip, there are those either on their menstrual cycle and grouchy or, worse, going through menopause and having hot flashes.
Wow. Wow. Wow. I’m sure I repeated that word numerous times throughout the interview because, seriously… women only tours consist of shaved-head lesbians who love a side of beef for dinner?
Of course, I can’t speak for all women-only tours, but I can tell you that on a women-only WanderTour, Jen’s experience would be quite different.
1) Most participants are women between 45 – 65. And, yup, during a 3-week trip it’s pretty certain that someone’s got their period or having a hot flash or two, but few complain or have issues.
2) Many of the women are divorced, widowed or married to a husband who doesn’t like to travel. They want a safe environment in which to travel and aren’t interested in hooking up (as some single tours promote). They want to be with like-minded women and share experiences that their friends, significant other or husband isn’t interested in.
3) Our Wanderlusters may not shave their heads but they are adventurous. In the 2011 tour to Vietnam and Cambodia, 2 women got their noses pierced in Hanoi! One of the women is in her 60’s. (I can only imagine what her husband said when she returned home with that souvenir!)
4) While many of our participants are meat eaters, about 1/4 have dietary restrictions including vegetarian, vegan, lactose intolerant or with allergies to such things as peanuts or buckwheat.
5) Competitive? Maybe. But on our trips, women aren’t catty. We don’t put up with that BS. If there’s an issue, women are asked to talk to the tour leader to iron out problems. And while there is probably more back chatter going on than the tour leader knows about, everything seems pretty civil from my point of view.
6) As for being entitled and fighting for seats? Meh, I haven’t seen such a thing. Everyone is respectful and is happy to rotate for a better window seat or an aisle seat with more legroom.
7) There might be one too many cosmetic bags floating around but we’re just as likely to attract the most experienced traveler who carries one 19 inch carry-on and isn’t afraid to be seen in the same few outfits on a 17-day trip. (I was in total awe of Kristina who did this for our South India tour in January!)
Having grown up with 3 older brothers, I didn’t have the luxury of learning from (or competing with) a sister. As a result, I have come to thoroughly enjoy the friendship and camaraderie that gets established on these tours.
As a matter of fact, I’ve become friends with women whom I would never have crossed paths with otherwise. And I’m not talking about simply because of geography.
Here’s just a sampling of tour participants that I now count as friends: a firefighter in Northern California; an entrepreneurial business owner in Michigan; a former Louisiana legislature (and staunch Republican – ack); a woman in British Columbia who owns several businesses with her husband and who also flies a small plane (and also now has a nose ring!); several physical therapists and nurses; a woman in her 70’s who teaches aerobic classes at her local Y (and put the rest of us to shame while hiking in Bhutan); and an elementary school teacher in California.
I would never have thought I’d have so much in common with this vast array of women that we could sustain long-term friendships, but we do. All because group travel tossed us together.
Oh, and another benefit of traveling with women? You get to learn things that your (non-existent) big sister never taught you, like what a muffin top is and what the latest waxing techniques are π
Everyone has their own reasons, but here are probably the biggest benefits of traveling on a women-only tour:
1) Joining a tour means you don’t have to make any of the arrangements yourself. You’re a busy woman and don’t have time to book in-country flights or trains on your own, make hotel reservations or know the best restaurants for local cuisine.
2) You’ll make instant friends. You may not have anyone to travel with but really enjoy the company of others to share the experiences. It’s highly likely that you will bond quickly with many of the women on one of our tours (and stay in touch for years to come).
3) You’ll have experiences you likely couldn’t schedule on your own. We work closely with well-connected, knowledgeable in-country tour operators and guides who help us coordinate unique programs including donating books to school children in Bhutan and watching world-renowned performers in a private home in Varanasi. We even got to meet part of the royal family in Bhutan.
Ultimately, group travel isn’t for everyone. But I hope Jen will join me one day on a tour. She’s fun and, I’m sure, would be a joy to have along. And I also like thinking it might just open up her world a bit wider…
Travel Well,
Beth
Related links:
Women-only Tours to India
Women-only Tours to Bhutan
wandering educators says
i LOVE this. i had NO idea. brilliant!
Jennifer says
Some women are catty, some men are catty, whatever. Women are 50% of the population, right? So I’d say, around half the best travelers I know are women.
Debi Lander says
I, for one, an ready for a women-only trip. Your description just makes me want to go all the more. As soon as I have the money.
Beth Whitman says
Debi – can’t wait to have you on board!
Audret says
I LOVE the idea of taking a trip with women only! I have a great respect for women and I think as a whole, they are so capable and intelligent and able to make lemonade from lemons. While there are many differences in us, when you strip away our surroundings, I think you find we all have so much in common when it comes to the way we approach life!
(but I still want the window seat!)
Beth Whitman says
Audret – you come on one of our tours and I’ll make SURE you have a window seat π
Debbie Beardsley @ European Travelista says
I have not taken a tour but would like to try one. I can see both sides of the coin. And I think a women only tour would be great fun! A big slumber party.
Beth Whitman says
Debbie – It IS like a big slumber party, without the prank phone calls!
adventureswithben says
Can’t say that I’ve ever been on a Women’s only tour. I think my attendance would negate the whole concept by default. Ha! But I do think all your points are quite valid. There’s something about traveling with like minded people that makes it all the more comfortable.
Odysseus Drifts says
I don’t take tours, but I still object to the stereotypes Jen Leo was bringing up about the women’s only tours — because they sound like a lot of stereotypes I hear about women in general. I HATE it when people say “Women are so catty (competitive, entitled)” etc. Maybe true for teenagers. But in my adult life, I have had the most amazing set of women friends and acquaintances surrounding me. I imagine the same thing would be true of your tours, Beth. If I were doing the tour circuit, I’d definitely do the sort of trips you operate, which look intelligent and fun.
ayngelina says
Great perspective in this post, I had been wondering about it since you were on This Week in Travel.
Debbie Dubrow says
I’m always surprised at the stereotypes we women apply to one another. The social dynamic in any group event has positives and negatives, but usually the positives outweigh the negatives. π
Terri aka Black Chick On Tour says
Interesting post. I didn’t know such a thing existed. While I don’t agree entirely with your “online” friend’s comments (wow, the stereotypes), I do wonder “why” one would want to take a women’s only tour. Because, really…unless it’s extreme sports, if a tour was advertised as men only, I don’t think non-gay men would want to go on it. I’m just assuming here. So…I don’t get the women only thing. What’s the point and/or advantage of a women only tour?
To each their own, but I would only do a women’s only tour if it were a girlfriend getaway. Otherwise, I prefer mixed company, all the way around. Mixed nationalities, mixed gender, mixed “so-called” races, etc.
BTW: Love your blog!!
T
Beth Whitman says
@Terri aka Black Chick On Tour – Mixed tours ARE wonderful (and we offer those, too!), but there is definitely something comforting about being with only a group of women, no matter your sexual preference.
For example, there’s a different camaraderie that forms when you’re in the company of only other women. Imagine the various topics that arise at a dinner party with girlfriends as opposed to a dinner party with couples and you’ll get the sense of what I’m talking about. (The same can be extrapolated about dinner parties with the same race/different race, gay/non-gay, etc.)
Married women whose husbands don’t like to travel may feel more comfortable traveling with other women. And imagine a woman who’s just been divorced or lost her husband (or gay partner!)… while she likely isn’t going to dump her problems on the group, she’ll find more warmth and sympathy (stereotypes that are generally true and pretty positive) in the company of women as opposed to a co-ed group.
Note – I’m not advocating that the answer to a grieving or broken heart is to take a women-only tour, I’m only suggesting that there is a therapeutic value to it that might be harder to find when men are around.
I don’t know what your definition of “girlfriend getaway” is (maybe traveling with someone you know?), but many women who take our tours DO treat them as a girlfriend getaway. Some travel with a friend, mother or daughter OR they simply arrive and make new friends, lifelong friends. Either way, in the company of women, it’s always a Girlfriend Getaway π
Laurel says
I haven’t done a women’s only tour, but I think I would enjoy it and can see how it would be a wonderful bonding experience.
robin says
Well expressed advocacy of women only tours, not that I’ll ver be invited along!
Grace says
Great insight into these tours as I have always wondered about it. But I think with an all women group things can really get competitive or “dramatic”.
Christy @ Technosyncratic says
What an enlightening post! I guess I never really thought about women-only tours… probably because I largely travel with my (male) partner, but also because we’ve never actually gone on a tour before (something I’d love to rectify soon!).
The idea sounds so appealing, though – it seems like a great way to form incredible friendships with some incredible women! And to be honest, the “negatives” articulated at the beginning of the article are just so damn essentialist. Why is it always assumed that when a group of women get together it’s going to turn into a raging cat-fight? Is it because ALL women are inherently catty? Obviously not, just as we know that obviously all women aren’t high maintenance, have PMS, or must be lesbians just because they’re willing to travel with a women-only group.
Anyhow, stepping off my soap-box now, lol. Basically, I think it’s rad to have this option, and I’d definitely be willing to consider a tour that catered to women. π
Beth Whitman says
@Grace – you seem to buy into the same stereotypes. No drama queens on our tours π
@Christy – hope you can join us on an adventure soon. Bhutan or India, perhaps?
Kent @ No vacation Required says
Great post, Beth. I especially appreciate the thoughts you shared with Terri in the comments. Respect.